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[00:00:32] **Scott:** Imagine finding out that the assistant who's about to make your job easier might also be the one taking it. That's AI or what we're led to believe in 2025. So is it our friend or foe? That's what we're gonna talk about today. So we're gonna unpack the reality behind the AI headlines. And there are many headlines out there.

Is it coming for your job or can we to help you do better or. Is it both? Can it be both? Andrew, should we kick off with actually what's going on here? How big a shift do you think this is?

[00:01:03] **Andrew:** It's, it's absolutely huge. And that's just, I don't know, that's typical British understatement, I guess. It's huge. It's, I don't have a word summarizes and captures the, the change that's coming. It's, uh, a tsunami of change. And it's just everything from, you know, using chat GPT to create images to businesses using AI to automate and replace people. Um, it's a whole new wave, uh, that we we're experiencing. And I think, you know, you and you and I are old enough, I think you're old enough to remember the internet coming in the, the worldwide web coming in and changing things. It's as big as that. actually, I think it's much bigger than, than the internet, which of course was transformative in terms of society and culture.

So yeah, it's absolutely huge. And anybody listening to this, I'm sure in sort of, uh, August, 2025, will know tools like, you know, mid journey, uh, obviously chat, GPT, that's the, the poster child of AI that, that made AI become sort of in the public domain. Uh, Claude. have I, Mr. Uh, Google Gemini, and they're always sort of talking about, you know, battling each other and which ones, um, which one's ahead.

So yeah, this is, as I say, how do you capture what's happening around us? And I've got some stories to share with, I'll share later on. It's just absolutely. Uh, ridiculous how, how massive this change is. So this isn't like technology of the past. This is fundamentally different and it's, it's a tool that you can access as an individual, on your, on your phone. And it's an a tool that's affecting huge global corporations. So, back to you then, Scott, how do you see this playing out at the moment? How do you see this playing out every day in your work and your contacts with people?

[00:02:48] **Scott:** So I kind of see both. Ends of it really. I think we're still in very much a, a hype cycle in terms of, you know, literally the news in the last few days has been chat. GT five has launched and Sam Altman was bringing it up to be transformational and actually he's had to do a massive back step in terms of it's been getting a lot of stuff wrong.

Some people miss the previous models. Some people have become quite unhealthily attached to some of those actually, and maybe we'll touch on that a little bit later. Um. So people asked it to draw a map of the US and it just got loads of things wrong. So I think there's, there's stuff where it gets things wrong and sometimes quite badly, and it's still early days really for the technology.

But equally on the other hand, I know somebody who, for example, needed to think about how to deal with, uh, a colleague that was particularly difficult and was challenging, and their supervisor had asked them to have a word with them. They asked Microsoft Co-pilot, which we didn't mention earlier, um, to look at all their communication that they'd had with this individual and suggest a recommended approach to broach a difficult conversation.

And it literally t trawled about 600 emails and teams conversations and said, these are the kind of things that have come up in the past. Here's the things that you might want to pick up. And it suggested a script, and that took. A minute versus how long would it have taken a human to go through all of those E, although you wouldn't have gone through all those emails.

[00:04:20] **Andrew:** wouldn't.

[00:04:21] **Scott:** It's that kind of thing where I think it can bring significant benefits in terms of saving time. But also as we touch on, it's also a threat to some of those traditional roles where, you know, it's changing how people operate.

So who, some people don't need a marketing agency anymore. They can just get. AI to create a marketing script for them or produce some social media graphics that they can use. Now, in my experience, sometimes they can be terrible. It's still not perfect, but I think we're in this, in this rapid transition to, I think we're still trying to find out.

What it can do for us. And there's lots of people dabbling in different ways, lots of people using it significantly. Obviously, massive amounts of money and energy are being put into it. So that's a long rambling take on. I think we're in still in a rapid transition and people are learning what it can do.

Also learning what it can do, but it is moving so quickly. I think we'll look back in a year's time and go, oh, that was kind of quite rubbish what we had back then. It's moving that quick.

[00:05:23] **Andrew:** Yeah. You know that expression. People underestimate the change that that will happen in 10 years, overestimate the change that will happen in like one year. And, and what strikes me is we've had chat GPT-3, wasn't it the roll down in 2022? Was it November? I think. So we are in sort of three years in to chat the chat GPT moment and people compare it to the sort of, um, know, browser Mozilla browser in, in the start of the internet, you know, when people could have a, a browser that made accessing the internet. Very easy in the web.

[00:05:55] **Scott:** What used to come on a cd, your internet with a AOL and everything,

[00:05:58] **Andrew:** exactly.

[00:05:59] **Scott:** you dial up modems.

[00:06:00] **Andrew:** a magazine. That's why

[00:06:01] **Scott:** Mm-hmm.

[00:06:02] **Andrew:** I'll let you do the, make the noise of the modem.

[00:06:04] **Scott:** No, I'll spare our listeners that.

[00:06:07] **Andrew:** You'd have to edit that in. So I think that what we've got here is we're so used to it ChatGPT Okay,

there'll be somebody listening to this, I guess, that hasn't tried chat, GPT or. Grok or Claude or, or per Perplexity. Somebody won't have, but I, I, I'd be surprised if somebody listening to this hasn't tried one of these tools, but I think we're so used to them now that as you say, we're in, uh, is it two, three days in from chat GPT five launching

[00:06:33] **Scott:** Mm-hmm. Yep.

[00:06:34] **Andrew:** and it was over hype, certainly by Sam Altman, that this is gonna be transformative.

In fact, he had that, um, what was that death star? Did you see this? You like the death star? he put just

[00:06:46] **Scott:** I didn't.

[00:06:46] **Andrew:** before. Yeah. It was as if like this was gonna change the world and blow up the world and, and people going, nah, but what's surprising is it's an inc it feels like an incremental improvement on, on the previous versions. But it's still mind boggling what you can do. We're just so used to it already. That's one of the

[00:07:03] **Scott:** You're right. Yeah. It's like, this is rubbish, but like, wait a minute. It can still do all these things that you couldn't do like two, three years ago. It's like we take it for granted, like, what's next? 'cause you know, you can get AI to generate a, an amazing Hollywood style video That, all right. It's only 10 seconds long, but yeah.

[00:07:22] **Andrew:** I, I think, I think we're gonna see AI where we'll creep along in certain areas maybe, and maybe we will plateau and, and perhaps we've seen that with some of these l and m's and in other areas, AI. leap leapfrogs forward. There was a thing on the, the news this morning as we were recording this, about, um, AI coming up with, um, anti, anti, uh, superbug drugs.

Did you

[00:07:41] **Scott:** Hmm.

[00:07:41] **Andrew:** That,

[00:07:42] **Scott:** Yes.

[00:07:43] **Andrew:** so I think when we talk about AI, I think the, the most common, uh, usage that people have is, is, is the l and m, the, the, the sort of Chat GPTs, the groks and so on. AI is obviously a huge topic, which we're not talking about. So AI as a technology is transforming society. What we are talking about often is LMS, like chat, GPT, which chat T five was clearly overhyped. But nevertheless, this technology is transforming the world of work and as we're talking about in this episode, it's already changed organization. I mean, any sort of examples that you use AI for , do you you willing to reveal your secret to how using chat PT or similar.

[00:08:24] **Scott:** Well, should we be honest with our listeners and say that we do use AI? So when I'm editing these episodes, uh, I get AI to help with some of the, um, some of the scripting. So it will actually translate our audio straight into text and I can ask it to give me a summary. The episode. So that helps speed up our process in terms of publishing things like show notes for the, for the, um, podcast.

So it's been really helpful for that as well as one example.

[00:08:53] **Andrew:** I'll give you an example. This morning I had a meeting and I, I suddenly thought about literally 30 minutes before the meeting that I needed a PowerPoint. I thought, oh, I should have probably put a PowerPoint together.

Now, in the past, I probably would've winged it and not put a PowerPoint together, but I went into chat, GBT. I said, can you pull a PowerPoint together? We'd had a, I'd had a chat with chat, GBT. pulled together the PowerPoint. I tweaked it, and I had it ready for the call Within less than 30 minutes. And in

[00:09:22] **Scott:** It's crazy.

[00:09:23] **Andrew:** gain, absolutely mind blowing. I also had a chat GPT window open in, in a another window, and it was creating some notes and some background notes for a different project. Is this as if I'd got two assistants? So again, talking about how this is threatening jobs, is that a threat? Was that the ally? I mean, how, how would you see that? Is that something that I should be, you know, proud of and pleased about or worried that that chat TBT can do what I used to do myself?

[00:09:51] **Scott:** Yeah, I think that's where it's really helpful in terms of as an assistant, and that's where I think largely people will really see benefit from using it. The novelty wears off of generating random images that you can come up with in your head, but actually using it as you've described, in a way that sits alongside you.

And I think that's why Microsoft named copilot, copilot. As in it is your co-pilot of navigating work and it does sit alongside your office suite. So, as I said, there's someone I knew I gave that example about analyzing other emails. You can have a teams call and it will summarize all the conversation that, you know, 10, 20 people have had.

In a video call, it will do the, the notes of that meeting for you and assign tasks to individuals. It is doing the job of an assistant that would've had to do that. So I think there's still gonna be some roles there, like personal assistants or people who've been tasked with taking minutes in a meetings.

Their roles potentially will change where AI can do that for you. But as people like entrepreneurs or leaders who want to use this as a. Copilot, hence the name, as I said from Microsoft. I think that's where there's real value in doing like the, the legwork and freeing you up to do more important, valuable tasks rather than, oh, I've gotta rest with PowerPoint for an hour and a half.

[00:11:07] **Andrew:** Yes.

[00:11:08] **Scott:** You've saved all that time. So I think sitting alongside you as an assistant is where it's really, really beneficial.

[00:11:14] **Andrew:** Yeah.

[00:11:15] **Scott:** I think those roles, like clerical roles and data entry roles, you know, you can get it to analyze, you upload three or four spreadsheets and say, analyze these spreadsheets and tell me the difference between them.

And it's just, it's knowing what to ask almost is the challenge, I think. And there's, there's certainly careers out there where people are coming up with, you know, prompts. Prompt is the term prompt is the term that's used to feed the LLM. And I'm conscious we called it an LLM and didn't say what that was earlier.

So that's large language model. But essentially it's like the, the chat assistance that people are familiar with, it's almost people are getting jobs as prompt engineers as they're calling them. So people employed because they know what AI can do and they know what to ask it to do.

So yeah, I think. Where that example you gave about PowerPoint and saving time, you know, in some organizations that is somebody's job to do that PowerPoint. So, and again, it depends on the nature of the structure of the organization and resources, et cetera. But I think those kind of roles are potentially at risks.

Some clerical roles, data entry roles, even. It's going into animation and design. So there are threads on Reddit where people are talking about, you know, VFX visual effects artists saying. A third of us could be gone soon.

[00:12:27] **Andrew:** Yes.

[00:12:28] **Scott:** Actually, seeing that those kind of tasks that AI can do quite well or really well in some cases, is where I think we're gonna see the threat.

[00:12:35] **Andrew:** yeah. So For some people this is gonna be a threat and some people it's gonna be an opportunity. And the World Economic Forum suggests that something like all jobs will be affected. Um, but they claim that something like 78 million jobs globally will be created. By AI, the advent of AI, although I think it's unclear what type of jobs people will be doing in the future. The jobs that we think aren't going to be affected at the moment are the ones where you need that human to human connection. So things like nursing, you know, childcare, um. Jobs and roles where you need that emotional intelligence, that human sort of aspect. And also until the robots come, the trade. So I think, you know, everybody should retrain as a a plumber, there's gonna be a lot of plumbers out there, former bankers and data entry people and clerical people are all thinking about retrain as a plumber because at the moment AI cannot do the really fine mechanical tasks that, that we find easy as humans. So, yeah, for a while, some of those manual things, those manual jobs will, will be safe. But anything you can do on a computer, AI, if you like, is coming for you

[00:13:45] **Scott:** yeah, the manual jobs are. What seems relatively safe at the moment? You said, although I watched a video the other day of Ocado, the um, online supermarket. They've got some very clever robots packing bags for customers now and they've cracked. What was a challenge for them picking up a, . It was a bag of oranges.

Apparently the robots used to find that quite hard, but they actually used AI to develop a solution and it came up with a solution itself and found that if it gets a suction pad just on the label of the orange bag, you know those net bags that you get, it can pick it up. And this video is quite.

Unsettling to see these things just as a, like a massive factory of them and they're working above the humans below apparently. So yeah, I get your point about fine, you know, plumbers and electricians, those kind of things probably be a long time before they get replaced by humanoid robots. But yeah, it's interesting times for sure.

[00:14:36] **Andrew:** I, I think where robots, where you've got a task which is very repeatable and the. The boundaries in which that task change.

[00:14:44] **Scott:** Mm-hmm.

[00:14:45] **Andrew:** like an Amazon warehouse, there's parcels coming down a conveyor belt, occasionally the parcel will be this way. Occasionally the parcel will be that way. Until recently you needed a human who could look at that parcel and pick it up and so on, where those tasks are fairly constrained. I think we're seeing robots coming into those sort of areas like, factories, um, where they make cars. There's the Optimus robot from Tesla, isn't there?

[00:15:09] **Scott:** Mm-hmm.

[00:15:10] **Andrew:** Where AI at the moment, probably, he says maybe 10, 20 years out this, this podcast might date very quickly. You know, asking a robot to come in your house, go upstairs, carry a stepladder, upstairs all the tools, open that stepladder, climb up to the lamp, to undo the lamp, to then res. Do you know, something like

[00:15:30] **Scott:** Hmm.

[00:15:30] **Andrew:** see a robot being able to do that for a while. I'm not saying it'll be impossible, so those jobs are gonna stay safe. But as I say, anything you can do on a computer, whether that's writing, creating images, marketing, I mean, the whole marketing industry is gonna change because I can create an entire marketing plan using AI. I can create all the images I want using AI video copy. Yeah. So this is what we're saying I think in this episode, is AI is both a threat and an opportunity. So I think what we need to start thinking about is. can you better prepare for this future that, as we said, it's not gonna go backwards. It's, it's gonna accelerate, isn't it? So have you got any ideas on how people can be better placed in this, this AI future that we are entering?

[00:16:17] **Scott:** Well, the first thing, as they say is knowledge is key. So actually try and become, you know, by listening to this hopefully, or learning some stuff if AI is new to you as a listener. , But as I said on our previous episode, there's lots of free resources out there and. About being familiar with. It's almost like know your enemy.

It is not necessarily your enemy, but it could be. So start to get familiar with it. Don't hide from it. Have a play with it. If you haven't had a chance already, look at some free online resources, some online videos. A lot of these tools are free to use in their basic form, and you generally can't break them, so there's no harm in.

Having a go, trying it out. Even asking the AI say, I'm new to using AI. Please give me some guidance. Tell me what you can do. Show me what you can do so you can actually use it to help educate you itself. So I think starting with getting some knowledge and getting some experience will be really, really helpful.

Speak to peers and your organization or family members who you know may be using it already. You try and learn from them

so I think the first step is to start to do some research yourself, to start to understand what you're dealing with, see what the opportunities are and potentially what those threats are as well.

[00:17:26] **Andrew:** It, it, it's interesting you say about using AI, you can use AI to teach you about AI.

[00:17:32] **Scott:** Yeah.

[00:17:32] **Andrew:** I think any AI I think Google have got their, uh, study mode. I think chat, GPT have got study with me. So you could actually put a prompt into, you could probably say to AI, me a prompt to teach me about AI, but then give you the prompt, actually the text. You then put that back into an AI to create a curriculum for you to learn about AI. So probably the best place to start is AI itself. But yeah, I

[00:17:59] **Scott:** Hmm.

[00:17:59] **Andrew:** the first thing is, is that awareness. Playing with this stuff. I think human beings have got advantages over AI. We've got that emotion intelligence, we've got that human, human sort of intuition and, and creativity. But you have to educate yourself in, in this and something we've talked about in previous episodes, this idea of a growth mindset and a fixed mindset. You may be a person that says, this is not for me. I'm not interested. I don't wanna touch it. I understand why that might be the case, you really do want to examine that, that attitude and sort of say, right, I need to be open to this.

I need to explore this because it could be coming from my job, or it could certainly be coming for parts of my job. And if you are in a vulnerable position in your workplace, what would be better? Either learning more about AI and becoming a bit of an expert. 'cause you could become the expert in the office.

Couldn't you become the go-to person? Do you remember there was always a person in the past where. Uh, I dunno if this was ever you, but they could fix the computer and work. They knew how to

[00:19:00] **Scott:** Yeah, that was me, I'm afraid. Yeah, I was the, I was the quote expert. Oh, Scott will fix it.

[00:19:06] **Andrew:** Exactly. So there was somebody that knew how to reinstall dos or something or showing my age there, but, you know, pump somebody who knew how to fix. a, a, a computer in the office. You could be the, the person in the office is the AI person, I guess if you wanted to be. So I think, yeah, having a growth mindset, having awareness, having education, but a reality check that this is changing things for all of us.

It's not, it's nobody's gonna be not affected by this. Don't you think everybody's affected by, this change?

[00:19:36] **Scott:** Yeah.

[00:19:36] **Andrew:** so how do you, if you think, let's say we accelerate 3, 4, 5 years out. How do we suggest to people that they actually are better prepared? Are there sort of any practical things that you would do? I mean, you mentioned things like education, you think other things that people could start doing prepare themselves for this future?

[00:19:55] **Scott:** So I think people could start to think of AI a bit like a new team member.

[00:20:00] **Andrew:** Hmm.

[00:20:00] **Scott:** So as I said, that co-pilot reference to, to what Microsoft call it. So think about it's smart, it doesn't get tired, but to balance that, it can be a bit unpredictable and. It can make mistakes, and I think that's important for people to realize is something a term people may or may not have heard of called Hallucination, where AI is convinced it's right and it's not, and.

We need to not always take it at face value. If you actually see the interface when you're using Gemini, Google's one or chat GBT, quite often they have a disclaimer right at the bottom. It says Chat, GBT Gemini can make mistakes because you know they could get into trouble if people take everything it says literally.

So it's not perfect. So treat it with that in mind. And you know, always good to cast that human eye over it. So yeah, I think treat it like a new team member that's smart and doesn't get tired. So think about how can you leverage it to help you as an individual and as a team. And I think organizations need to build trust with how AI is used in the organizations, and that means transparency.

So employees want to know if AI is being used to do their job evaluation, for example, that's only fair.

[00:21:09] **Andrew:** Mm.

[00:21:09] **Scott:** . So that transparency is important. And if people in a company think, oh, the bosses are using AI and they're gonna use it to replace us, that's gonna affect performance and morale and all those kind of things as well.

So I think companies need to be transparent and actually see AI as that companion and. I think as we said on a previous episode, actually, there are some companies that think, right, this is gonna help me replace all my employees, but actually you want to be in a company that says. This can help my employees.

This can free my employees up to do the really valuable stuff that AI just can't do. As you said, that human-centric thing, maybe it's more time to have empathy with a customer to understand customer's problems. I've always been an advocate of that. Getting your. Teams and organizations close to the customers.

And , the customers maybe are becoming increasingly more familiar with interacting with AI and chatbots to deal with customer experience and things like that. But I think that will never replace that human to human contact. So I think companies that see it as an ally and companion, rather than this is gonna save us money and this is gonna threaten, this is gonna get rid of all our staff.

We'll flourish. And actually, I was reading an article the other day, uh, where. Companies have spent lots and lots of money on bringing in AI, and now they're having to pay consultants to come in and help them undo the mess that's been created because I think they were taking the wrong approach again or didn't understand what they were bringing in.

[00:22:38] **Andrew:** Uh, I love the fact you said see it as a, as a sort of, uh, partner or somebody in your office, like a sort of coworker. me, it's almost as though you've got this super bright, eager to please. PhD, MBA person, young person, as you were imagine that they're not, you know, obviously real, although people do talk to AI's as if they are real.

But this junior persons come in, they're super bright. They are so clever. They've come at university, they're bursting with knowledge, but they're so eager to please that they will actually tell you. Some things which aren't correct 'cause they don't want to be seen to be wrong. So AI can, as you say, hallucinate.

I think the hallucinations on GPT 5 five are claimed to be lower than ever. of course human beings get things wrong. So I think for me, you're absolutely right. See AI as a partner, try, do not see it as a, as a threat. See it something that is exciting. one of the things you could do as an individual is. You could be the person that's very good at checking things. You could become the person that's very good at double checking and triple checking things. You could show your colleagues that, yeah, I know that you created that with AI. However, I did some other research that sort of undermines that. not to show off or to sort of make people look bad, but if you develop those classic research skills, you're gonna actually become even more valuable. As a person that double checks and sense checks AI do, do you know what I mean? I mean, it is ironic that not relying on AI could actually make you a very valuable asset. Um, I also think that to, to protect yourself, it's probably worth thinking about your job and, and saying to yourself, realistically, looking at some of these researches is your job at threat? It may not feel like it now. Go out 3, 4, 5 years.

And let's imagine chat GP T eight is actually really transformative. it's important for you to think, is my job really safe? And if it isn't, what am I gonna do about it?

And if you are in a leadership role and you are looking for help, you know, we can help with that. We, we can look at it from a sort of psychological perspective. You know, I know you, Scott could look at it from a sort of work design perspective. There's some real big questions. I mean, what happens if AI gets something wrong?

You know, who's accountable if AI gets this wrong?

[00:24:58] **Scott:** And Exactly. That's one of the challenges. 'cause we were, wow, the AI did it. It wasn't me.

[00:25:02] **Andrew:** And as we said, I mean, if AI is hallucinating, how many lines of code are already in different softwares and apps that are bug. We didn't spot because it was written by AI. You know, how many

[00:25:15] **Scott:** Yeah.

[00:25:16] **Andrew:** have been signed and agreed where there's something in there that the AI hallucinated, I don't wanna scare people, but we've seen that, as you mentioned, there was that map.

I saw that on online where they asked AI to create a map in North America and it just got it

[00:25:30] **Scott:** Hmm.

[00:25:31] **Andrew:** wrong.

[00:25:32] **Scott:** Yeah.

[00:25:32] **Andrew:** can't do that yet, it can do some things which are remarkable. People are using it to write writing contracts. They're using it to write job descriptions. There's some absolute landmines already in the world, and

[00:25:45] **Scott:** Government policy in America,

[00:25:47] **Andrew:** Pardon?

[00:25:48] **Scott:** government policy in America is reading.

[00:25:49] **Andrew:** policy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, god forbid, and I'm touching table here, but you know, no airline start dropping out the skies because, you know, AI has written some code for the air traffic control software, and there's a bug in it. Then nobody spotted, know, nuclear submarines. God knows what could happen because AI at the moment isn't as good as we think it is. So, yeah, it's,

[00:26:08] **Scott:** If

[00:26:08] **Andrew:** scary. Exciting, but it's not gonna go backwards, is it?

[00:26:13] **Scott:** No, it does feel like it's those kind of dramatic scenarios where it goes horribly wrong, feels like a matter of when, not if.

[00:26:22] **Andrew:** Mm.

[00:26:23] **Scott:** Um, before maybe the world gets that wake up call and goes, oh, actually we've put far too much faith in this too soon. Especially as you said, like nuclear arms. They've been, it's been used in the military a lot already.

Um, yeah, it's just a little bit, I don't wanna be doom a gloom, but yeah.

[00:26:41] **Andrew:** be doom and gloo and I hope that nobody's injured or ill, uh, killed, or, you know, there's no harm to anybody. Just that. All those organizations, the governments, the militaries, the industrial complexes, they're full of human beings. And human beings take shortcuts. And if you are not, which is what we're talking about in this episode, you don't have that AI literacy.

You are already using AI. To cut corners, to save time to be more productive. But AI hallucinates, so I guarantee it has caused problems that maybe we haven't seen the beginning of yet. Unfortunately,

[00:27:14] **Scott:** Yeah. So to wrap up, I think from my perspective, AI isn't necessarily our enemy just yet,

[00:27:23] **Andrew:** no.

[00:27:24] **Scott:** but it is a test, actually. A test of how fast we can learn, adapt, and lead. It almost feels like potentially we're in a race with it now.

[00:27:31] **Andrew:** Yeah. I was gonna say, you know, it's not exactly man versus machine. I shouldn't say man, I should person versus machine. Um, but it should be person plus machine. If we get this right as a society, if we get this right as organizations, the opportunity is mind boggling. The future that we could all have. But I think as an individual, you need to increase your own individual value. You cannot ignore this. And you really wanna see a AI as your ally, your, your friend, not your foe.

[00:28:01] **Scott:** Yeah. So I'd like to set our listeners a challenge this week to identify one task where you think AI could save you some time and give it a go, but also to balance that, think about where you can outperform AI still.

[00:28:14] **Andrew:** Yeah. And, and if you're wondering where to start, you know, how to, how to begin, to bring this into your team, you know, message me or Scott, uh, we'd be very happy to help you do this , transformation and bring AI into your organization successfully.

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[00:28:47] **Scott:** Thanks, and until the next time.